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Pricing

There are no rates on this page.

Not because they are hidden, and not because you have to ask. Because a single rate on a web page is an answer to a question about somebody else, priced at a moment that has already passed — and because the company whose name is at the top of this site is fictional and cannot lend to anyone.

  • No published rate, no APR, no offer
  • One clearly-labeled illustration
  • Your own numbers, in the calculators

What a rate table is

A marketing artefact with a number in it.

A lender's rate table is a price for one invented borrower: a particular credit band, a particular down payment, an owner-occupied detached house, a short lock, and usually points paid at closing. It is generated once a day, or once a week, from a rate sheet that changes several times between generations. It is accurate about a scenario and silent about yours.

None of that makes it dishonest. The dishonest part is the layout: a big number, a small footnote, and a date underneath that implies the number is current. The footnote is where the loan lives.

Illustrative example only — not a rate quote, not an APR offer, and not a commitment to lend.

What actually moves the price

Nine inputs, and none of them is the headline.

These are the things a lender adjusts for before it can quote you anything. Most of them cannot be assessed from a form, which is the real reason a firm number needs a credit report and a property.


Credit score band

Pricing moves in bands, not smoothly. Crossing from 739 to 740, or from 759 to 760, can change the price of the loan; moving from 742 to 758 usually changes nothing at all. This is why a lender cannot price you honestly without a credit report, and why a number typed into a form is a guess.

Loan-to-value

The same banding applies to how much of the price you are borrowing. The adjustments interact with the credit band rather than adding to it, so the effect of putting five per cent more down depends entirely on where your score sits.

Occupancy

A home you live in, a second home and a rental are three different risks and three different prices. Occupancy is also the single most common piece of mortgage fraud, which is why lenders verify it rather than take your word.

Property type

A detached house, a condominium, a manufactured home and a two-to-four-unit building price differently. Condominiums carry an extra layer: the building itself has to be reviewed, and a project that fails review can end the loan regardless of the borrower.

Loan size

Below the conforming limit, at high-balance in a costlier county, and above it into jumbo territory are three different markets with three different sets of investors. The cheapest rate is not always in the lowest bracket.

Points and credits

Every rate has a price. Paying points buys a lower rate; taking a higher rate buys a credit toward closing costs. A table showing one rate has silently chosen one point on that curve, and it is almost never the one you would choose.

Lock period

A rate held for fifteen days costs less than the same rate held for sixty, because the lender is carrying the risk for longer. Advertised rates are usually quoted on the shortest lock, which is the one least likely to survive a purchase contract.

Purpose and structure

Purchase, rate-and-term refinance and cash-out refinance price differently, in that order. So do escrow waivers, subordinate financing behind the first mortgage, and a debt-to-income ratio near the program ceiling.

The day, and the hour

Mortgages are funded by bonds that trade all day. When those move enough, lenders reissue their pricing mid-session — a reprice — and the number that was true at ten is not true at two. Nothing about you changed.

An illustration, not a rate sheet

The points-versus-rate trade-off, with invented numbers.

Every figure in the table below is invented. The base rate of 6.500% was chosen because it is a round number, and the quarter-point step per point paid is a teaching device — real rate sheets do not move in tidy steps, and the shape of the curve changes daily. What is real is the arithmetic: the payment column is the standard amortising payment formula and the break-even column is the cost of the points divided by the monthly difference. Nothing here describes any market, on any day, for any borrower.

Illustration only — an invented $400,000 loan over 30 years. Not a rate quote, not an APR offer, not a commitment to lend.
Points paidWhat that costsIllustrative ratePrincipal & interestMonthly differenceMonths to break even
None—6.500% illustration$2,528——
0.5$2,0006.250% illustration$2,463$65 less31 months
1$4,0006.000% illustration$2,398$130 less31 months
2$8,0005.625% illustration$2,303$226 less36 months

Read the last column first. Paying points is a bet that you will still have this loan when the saving has repaid the cost — and the median American mortgage does not survive that long, because people move and refinance. The break-even months are the honest question; the rate is the headline.

Illustrative example only — not a rate quote, not an APR offer, and not a commitment to lend. The calculators linked above take whatever rate you type and show the arithmetic; they do not know what any lender would charge you, and neither does this page.

Two numbers people confuse

Rate, APR, and the gap between them.

The note rate

The percentage the interest is calculated at. It sets your payment and nothing else. It is the number in your loan documents, the number the servicer uses, and the only one of the two that has any effect on what leaves your account each month.

The APR

A comparison figure required by regulation. It folds points, origination and certain other charges into a single annualised percentage, on the assumption that you keep the loan for its full term. Useful for lining two offers up; misleading the moment your real horizon is five years rather than thirty.

A quoted APR is a calculation about a specific set of fees. Two lenders can include different charges and both be within the rules, which is why the Loan Estimate — a standardised three-page document with the costs broken into lettered sections — is the thing to compare, not the two numbers at the top of a web page.How to read one, section by section.

Questions

The ones that follow from all of that.

Why will you not show me today’s rate?
Because there is no such thing as a rate, only a price for a specific borrower, property and structure on a specific day. A single number on a page is an average of things that are not comparable, quoted for a borrower who is not you, at a moment that has passed. This site is also a demonstration by a fictional company that cannot lend, so any number it printed would be doubly meaningless.
What is the difference between the rate and the APR?
The rate determines your payment. The APR is a second number that folds the cost of getting the loan — points, origination, some third-party fees — back into an annualised percentage so two offers can be compared on one figure. APR assumes you keep the loan for its whole term, which most people do not, so it flatters loans with high upfront costs held for thirty years and penalises them if you move in six.
Are advertised rates real?
They are usually real prices for a scenario chosen to produce the lowest possible number: excellent credit, a large down payment, an owner-occupied detached house, a short lock, and points paid at closing. Everything in the footnote is doing the work. The rate is not a lie; it is an answer to a question you did not ask.
What is a rate lock, and when does it start?
A lock is a lender’s commitment to honour a price for a set number of days, and it normally starts when you ask for it, not when you first talk about rates. If it expires before closing, you either extend it — usually for a fee — or take whatever the market is doing that day. Longer locks cost more up front precisely because they are worth more.
Why did my quote change after I sent my documents?
Because the first number was priced from what you told them and the second was priced from what was verified: the credit report, the appraised value, the occupancy, the condominium review, the actual debt-to-income ratio. Changes at that stage are normal. Changes with no explanation attached are not, and a Loan Estimate exists so you can compare the two versions line by line.
How should I actually compare two lenders?
Get a Loan Estimate from each, on the same day, for the same loan amount, the same lock period and the same number of points. Compare the rate, then section A of page two, which is what the lender charges. Section C is shoppable and section B is not, so differences there say less about the lender. The second look page on this site walks through the document.

This is a demonstration website for a fictional lender. Copperline Home Loans does not exist, is not licensed anywhere, and cannot lend. Every rate, payment, schedule and person shown is illustrative. Nothing here is a quote, an offer, or a commitment to lend, and no form on this site sends, stores or transmits anything.